Regeneration by Conversion and Sanctification

Regeneration by Conversion and Sanctification .. the underlying thought in Sanctification, both in the Old Testament and the New Testament, is a clear, initial, definite personal separation to God and a full dedication to Him.. all done still fully of course with God’s help. The term Sanctification today too often is generally implied as a personal long time involvement, life long event and thus is often used as a false personal substitute,a false personal excuse for still not having yet the personal experience of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, note which clearly is an instantaneous event with ready evinces now as well too. Yes it may be true that all Christians are in a sanctification process, but this process still always start with the initial Giving of one’s whole life to Jesus Christ. Too many so called Christian persons they still do not initially now fully do this, for they really did not initially receive Jesus Christ as Lord of their life, they only admitted intellectually, consensually that he Jesus can, does save them personally.. now serves them, but they still do not admit or that they will admit to serve Jesus fully, full time. Thus these types of Christians they are really not fully sanctified yet, thus still not actually baptized with the Holy Spirit until they do… even if they may now openly claim they are. These persons they are what I call, label as still a non practicing charismatic, a non experienced Christian, but merely an intellectual Christian, or possibly an intellectual charismatic.. yes they are so near to heaven and yet still so far as well.. and that is also why we do still now have so much conflicts amongst various types of Christians on the issues of the gifts and usages of the Holy Spirit in the church.. the deniers of the of the many personal evidences of the personal Baptism of the Holy Spirit , charismatic Holy Spirit gifts too. Clearly now those still those so called Christian persons who do not have it and do not honestly want to still admit the reasons as to why? They are the distorters of the truth, of even the word of God now too, they thus still are non fully sanctified ones, are still influenced strongly by Satan too, for they still have not fully accepted Jesus as the sole lord of their life, even if they may claim they too have been baptized by the Holy Spirit. These many independent fleshly, carnal, non ready to fully serve the Lord, professing Christian persons here they are still personally mostly trying really to enter into Heaven by trying to do their own good works, not by the finished work of Christ, the work of the Holy Spirit , by His empowerment. They also now really are not living fully by faith in God even to provide all that they need.. I now also would not be doing them any favour by lying to them and not telling them the whole truth.

(Rom 9:32 KJV) Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

(Rom 1:17 KJV) For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

(Gal 3:11 KJV) But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

(Heb 10:38 KJV) Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.

(Acts 20:30 KJV) Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

(1 Th 2:16 KJV) Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.

(Heb 7:25 KJV) Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

(Acts 16:31 KJV) And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved,

(Mat 7:21 KJV) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

(Acts 19:2 KJV) He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism. 4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. 7 And all the men were about twelve. 8 And he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God.
(Acts 4:29 KJV) And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word, 30 By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus. 31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness. 32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. 33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. 34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, 35 And laid them down at the apostles’ feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

It is an absolute imperative that each Christian personally lives by faith by standing continually, daily on the promises to us given in the world, word of God.. and for this to happen you have to be a Christian, in the word of God, know the word of God plus you have to be on direct speaking terms with God.. if you seek him with your whole heart you can and will find him..

(John 10:27 KJV) My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and my Father are one.

(Deu 4:29 KJV) But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.

(Job 23:3 KJV) Oh that I knew where I might find him! that I might come even to his seat!

(Rom 10:17 KJV) So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

(Acts 17:27 KJV) That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:

(Gal 3:16 KJV) Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

(Heb 6:12 KJV) That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.

(Heb 11:33 KJV) Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,

(2 Pet 1:4 KJV) Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

and what promises can you, are you standing on today.. promises such as?

(Heb 13:5 KJV) for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

(Psa 30:10 KJV) Hear, O LORD, and have mercy upon me: LORD, be thou my helper.

(Heb 13:6 KJV) So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper,

(Mat 18:5 KJV) And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.

(Mat 18:20 KJV) For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

(Mark 16:17 KJV) And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

(John 14:13 KJV) And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

(John 14:14 KJV) If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

(John 15:16 KJV) Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

(John 16:23 KJV) And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

(John 16:24 KJV) Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.

(John 16:26 KJV) At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:

(Song 1:7 KJV) Tell me, O thou whom my soul loveth, where thou feedest, where thou makest thy flock to rest at noon: for why should I be as one that turneth aside by the flocks of thy companions?

(Isa 40:27 KJV) Why sayest thou, O Jacob, and speakest, O Israel, My way is hid from the LORD, and my judgment is passed over from my God?

(Jer 2:33 KJV) Why trimmest thou thy way to seek love? therefore hast thou also taught the wicked ones thy ways.

(Jer 2:36 KJV) Why gaddest thou about so much to change thy way? thou also shalt be ashamed of Egypt, as thou wast ashamed of Assyria.

(Jer 8:5 KJV) Why then is this people of Jerusalem slidden back by a perpetual backsliding? they hold fast deceit, they refuse to return.

(Jer 8:14 KJV) Why do we sit still? assemble yourselves, and let us enter into the defenced cities, and let us be silent there: for the LORD our God hath put us to silence, and given us water of gall to drink, because we have sinned against the LORD.

(Jer 8:19 KJV) Behold the voice of the cry of the daughter of my people because of them that dwell in a far country: Is not the LORD in Zion? is not her king in her? Why have they provoked me to anger with their graven images, and with strange vanities?

(Jer 8:22 KJV) Is there no balm in Gilead; is there no physician there? why then is not the health of the daughter of my people recovered?

(Jer 14:8 KJV) O the hope of Israel, the saviour thereof in time of trouble, why shouldest thou be as a stranger in the land, and as a wayfaring man that turneth aside to tarry for a night?

(Jer 14:9 KJV) Why shouldest thou be as a man astonied, as a mighty man that cannot save? yet thou, O LORD, art in the midst of us, and we are called by thy name; leave us not.

(Acts 9:4 KJV) And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

(Acts 22:16 KJV) And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

(Col 2:20 KJV) Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,

Be aware! – Beware
(Jude 1:2 KJV) Mercy unto you, and peace and love, be multiplied.
The following are the ten most dangerous groups in North America today,

1 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormonism).

A very subtle, but a definate spiritual deception, an Anti Christ Movement started in 1830 by Joseph Smith. This group contends that it is the only true Church, and that all Christians outside Mormonism are following a deficient Gospel and a false Christ. What does Mormonism teach?

Mormonism says: Jesus and Satan, like the rest of us, were spirit brothers and sons of God before the spirit of Jesus was given a body by Mary in Bethlehem. The Mormon “Book of Moses” presents Satan and Jesus as contending for the privilege of taking a body of flesh in order to become the redeemer, with Jesus winning the contest. [See Joseph Smith, Pearl of Great Price, Book of Moses 4:1-4.]

Mormonism also teaches that Jesus was the physical son of God the Father and Mary, and that there is nothing in His life more than what is attainable by anyone else.

“When the Virgin Mary conceived the child Jesus… he was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. And who is his Father? He is the first of the human family. …Jesus our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the garden of Eden.”
-Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, 1:50-51, as cited in Gordon H. Fraser, Is Mormonism Christian? (Chicago: Moody, 1955), p. 58.

“His humanity is to be recognized as real and ordinary …whatever happened to him may happen to any one of us. …The divinity of Jesus, and the divinity of all other noble and stately souls, in so far as they, too, have been influenced by a spark of Deity – can be recognized as manifestations of the Divine.”
-Parley P. Pratt, Key to the Science of Theology (Salt Lake City: Deseret, 1883) (emphasis added).

The Bible says: Jesus Christ has existed eternally as God the second Person of the Trinity, and then took on a human nature at His birth in Bethlehem. Since then He exists eternally as one Person with both divine and human natures Learn more about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints – GO…

Mormonism says: All human beings and spirits, including Jesus and Satan, existed as spirit beings before being born. Physical birth gives bodies to these spirits, and an opportunity to choose right or wrong. Thus the present life is a period of probation. The way a person lives in this life determines their status in the life after the resurrection. If the deeds of this life have been satisfactory and all temple obligations have been fulfilled, the individual becomes a god and is considered eligible to create “spirit children” as God the Father did and populate a world of his own.
The Bible says: There is no pre-existence of human spirits in an earlier life before our earthly existence; the Bible does not teach this in any form. And humanity is permanently on a lower level than God. Though we may become like Him in moral purity in heaven, we never become infinite in regard to time, space or ability. And the Bible says nothing about populating other worlds – simply about the future. Jesus and the Bible is the sole word of God too.

2 The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society (Jehovah’s Witnesses). Another Anti Christ Movement
Militantly anti-historic Christian tenets. This group began in the 1870s with Charles Taze Russell. They not only deny the essentials of the Christian faith, but the control exercised over the membership is highly destructive. Learn more about the Jehovah’s Witnesses – GO…

3 The Church of Scientology.
A do-it-yourself salvation, science fiction group that masquerades as the true Church, lightly sprayed with a thin veneer of Christianity..

4 The Twelve Tribes.
This group began in the early 1970s with Elbert Eugene Spriggs. They claim that salvation can only be found by giving all possessions to them and living in their community. All personal decision-making power is given over to the leadership. An open letter to a prospective member of the Messianic Communities (aka Twelve Tribes) – GO…

5 The Holy Spirit Association for the Unification of World Christianity (Unification Church).
Founded in 1954 by Sun Myung Moon, this highly authoritarian and destructive group teaches that Jesus failed on the cross. Moon is now the mediator between God and man.

6 The International Churches of Christ (Boston Movement).
This highly evangelistic group which began in 1978 with Kip McKean embraces most of the main tenets of the historic Church. Teaches that it is the only true Church and is highly authoritarian, with immense control over members’ lives.

7 The Family (Children of God).
This communal group was founded by David “Moses” Berg. A strange mixture of basic Christian tenets and almost total sexual license. Very controlling and manipulative.

8 Christian Identity Movement (Aryan Nations, Christian Identity Church, Klu Klux Klan, etc.).
A loose-knit confederation of various small groups that are militantly anti-government and conspiracy driven. Each group holds differing, deviant Christian tenets. All hold to Caucasians being the descendants of the ten “lost” Tribes of Israel, God’s true people.

9 The Nation of Islam (Black Muslims).
Began in 1930s by W. D. Fard. Group teaches that the black man is good, the white man is the devil, and that Jesus was merely a prophet. Highly controlling group. Learn more about the Nation of Islam – GO…

10 United Pentecostal Church (UPC).
A highly controlling, legalistic group that was formed in 1945. This group denies the Trinity and teaches that in order to be saved one must be baptized in the name of Jesus only.

Author: Bob Pardon, Director of the New England Institute of Religious Research (NEIRR) in Lakeville, MA, and an AIIA http://christiananswers.net/q-aiia/aiia-top10cults.html

(Rom 1:17 KJV) For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

(Acts 5:29 KJV) Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

I really do believe that most Christians still do not live by faith, they may talk about having faith in God, but it seems to be something you turn on and off, mostly it is off and you turn it on when there is a crisis, emergency ..

(Rom 1:22 KJV) Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Many people rather still live by rules and regulations that are man made, or man encouraged too

(Luke 11:46 KJV) And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.

(Col 2:21 KJV) (Touch not; taste not; handle not; 22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?

(Col 2:23 KJV) Which things have indeed a show of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.

It is undeniable that most Christians are not living continually by faith, rather they are trying to get ahead in THIS WORLD even materialistically in the flesh, they are in the flesh are working to get rich, are not trusting in God for all of their needs.

WHAT ABOUT WALKNG BY FAITH, TRUSTING IN GOD FIRSLTY? PLEASE GOD MORE THAN MERE MAN

(Heb 11:9 KJV) By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

(Isa 31:1 KJV) Woe to them that go down to Egypt for help; and stay on horses, and trust in chariots, because they are many; and in horsemen, because they are very strong; but they look not unto the Holy One of Israel, neither seek the LORD! 2 Yet he also is wise, and will bring evil, and will not call back his words: but will arise against the house of the evildoers, and against the help of them that work iniquity. 3 Now the Egyptians are men, and not God; and their horses flesh, and not spirit. When the LORD shall stretch out his hand, both he that helpeth shall fall, and he that is holpen shall fall down, and they all shall fail together.

(James 4:4 KJV) Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

(2 Cor 6:10 KJV) As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.

(2 Cor 8:9 KJV) For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.

(James 2:5 KJV) Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?

(James 2:6 KJV) But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?

(Rev 3:17 KJV) Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

(Mat 19:24 KJV) And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

(Luke 12:21 KJV) So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.

(1 Tim 6:17 KJV) Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy; 18 That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate; 19 Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.

(James 2:1 KJV) My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. 2 For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; 3 And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: 4 Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? 5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? 6 But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats? 7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called? 8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

DID YOU YET GET THE IMPRESSION I REALLY RIGHTFULLY DO NOT LIKE IT WHEN PEOPLE EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS AND CONCERNS BUT LEAVE OUT WHAT GOD’S WORD ACTUALLY SAYS ABOUT IT ?

>> Today at 5:46pm, carpetbomber wrote: in regard to the Christian Bashers.. I think you don’t fight fire with fire.

If you are saying we should not stoop to their level and play their false game you are right but firstly there are still valid approaches one must take.

(Luke 17:3 KJV) Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.

Now as to the forgiveness , he or she first has to ask for the forgiveness and give genuine evidence of the repentance as well.. Do you practise this?

(1 Tim 5:20 KJV) Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

(Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

(Mat 3:8 KJV) Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

I clearly here do not understand what you are saying.. it is clearly a simplified code in reply to my pages..

1- because in the real word your expression is false.. for a start people do fight a forest fire with fire…

they actually light a controlled fire to stop the major fire from spreading..

the key word is under control.. not in rage, anger, reaction of course but in full personal control

2: And I am quite sure that if you got robbed, or beat up that you would use the law itself and you would call the police.. and the judge

I am sure that if you were arrested you would use the services of the law, the lawyer to protect you as well..

3: Apostle Paul Himself appealed to the laws of Caesar..

Now also what I did say very clearly was that you do two things for sure

a: you ask the abuser to repent and you do next expose him or her to to all as to who these abusers are if they do not repent.. that is Biblical

b: If they refuse to repent still then you also do avoid all contact with them.. even in the church and that is Biblical

Here is a realy great insight too.. Now the traditional ostrich approach and putting your head in the sand evry time there is a conflict is not mentioned in the Bible , even as valid.. in reality likely this general pacification approach used by the sheep to ignore the abusers approach is just a subtle hatred of them, a false refusal to have any further conversation with them and is an immoral approach rather (Prov 27:5 KJV) Open rebuke is better than secret love.6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.

God himself does not overlook abuse of anyone, or unrepentant sins even with the passage of time too and EVEN IF SOME DECEIVE THEMSELVES on this

(Ezek 34:2 KJV) Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks? 3 Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock. 4 The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them. 5 And they were scattered, because there is no shepherd: and they became meat to all the beasts of the field, when they were scattered. 6 My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them. 7 Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD; 8 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock; 9 Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD; 10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them.

(Jer 51:39 KJV) In their heat I will make their feasts, and I will make them drunken, that they may rejoice, and sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the LORD.

(Jer 51:40 KJV) I will bring them down like lambs to the slaughter, like rams with he goats.

Now the death of a father, husband, wife are always hard to take, but easier to accept than a divorce… sadly my being a Christian for the last 50 years I have often experienced that the Christians die early cause of sins, they were physical abusing others or teaching their really children bad values, corrupting them.. fathers too.. I pray God will help the spouse to forget this now.. and claim these edible promises

(Rev 21:4 KJV) And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

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About thenonconformer

I am a Canadian, retired and I do have an Engineering degree, from Concordia University , Montreal 1968, plus I had also now worked as a Re/Max Realtor in Calgary too.
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